I have a question. In the season after Buffy was brought back (7) , she had to be concerned about how to pay the bills and working. I don't undertand this. In the prior season the watchers council reinstated Giles at full salary retroactive. If Giles was getting paid why wasn't Buffy? Anybody have any answers here?
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Sun, July 29, 2007 - 8:09 AMGood question.
I also wonder why Willow and Tara were not paying rent, seeing as they had the master bedroom and all. -
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Mon, July 30, 2007 - 11:17 AMActually this has been discussed to some length. There were a lot of complaints about Willow and Tara not paying rent. But, hell, do the writers have to resolve everything to perfection? Seems that the need for Buffy to don the Doublemeat uniform was worth all the controversy of the Scoobies staying at her house!
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Mon, July 30, 2007 - 1:29 PMIs there a scene of some kind where it's revealed that Will and Tara weren't paying rent?
I never thought about it before, but with all the stepping in and raising Dawn while Buffy was dead, and helping out in the household after she came back, I wouldn't expect them to be paying rent. They're family not tenants. -
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Mon, July 30, 2007 - 1:48 PMFrom what I could tell, since the entire series never included things like pagers or cell phones*exasperated look*, it made more sense for everyone to be under one roof, since in the previous seasons, they spent so much time chasing around looking for each other. Besides, I agree with Hayden-its not like Willow and Tara were tenants, they were family at that point. -
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Mon, July 30, 2007 - 7:20 PMI know they were not tennants. But families help each other. And yes, families help each other with rent as well.
Does everybody expect Buffy to be the Slayer, Dawn's "mother" and the bread winner?
Since the issue of bills came up in the show, it seems a viable topic for discussion here. -
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Wed, August 1, 2007 - 2:15 PMI bet Willow and Tara helped when they could, but they were also going to school and it could be that part of their rent was watching out for Dawn. Or they were in charge of groceries or something. Still, it wouldn't take care of mortgage payments or taxes or plumbing bills or anything. -
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Mon, August 6, 2007 - 4:51 PMI really wasn't thinking about the rent issue. I just sort of assumed that they all helped out but I just thought it was funny that since Buffy was the slayer and Giles the watcher if he had a salary why didn't she? I guess that was what I was trying to say in my original post. Sorry if it got confused.
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Mon, July 30, 2007 - 7:22 PMYou are right, that episode was great. Buffy as the Doublemeat worker is very funny. -
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Mon, July 30, 2007 - 9:01 PMThe asumption is that they weren't paying rent and yet how do we know thwy weren't? We do know they were both still in college though so even though I find a pretty unimportant detail for the show as hole I'm sure if Joss had delt with that issue it would have been reaveled that paid what they could.
As it is meerly a TV show like most shows issues like that take a back seat to more important issues like which demon they are fighting this season. And I prefer it that way I have to worry about my own rent enough...:-) -
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Mon, July 30, 2007 - 9:12 PMThe only reason it seems relevant is that Joss did address the issue. Xander worked as a bartender and a construction worker. Anya worked at the Magic Box. Giles as a librarian and shop owner. Part of the whole concept and gestalt of the show was the curious juxtoposition of the mundane with the supernatural. It was originally a look at a Vally Girl moster hunter. We all know it is called, Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
I know the show is escapist fiction. But the purpose of a Tribe like this one is to discuss the minutia of the whole thing. -
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Mon, July 30, 2007 - 9:29 PMOh I understand that, but I feel like it takes away from the fun of it to nitpick some things..I mean they did deal with it they had her work at the fast food place...I don't think there needs to be too much spelled out to us, but that is just me. -
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Tue, July 31, 2007 - 11:06 AMWillow and Tara were both continuing at UC Sunnydale long after Buffy dropped out, remember. Perhaps they didn't have the ability to work while going to school? Or maybe they contributed what they could from student loans and scholarships? I think if they did manage to make that detail known, it would seem unecessary. I agree that it's almost more fun to debate the issue, because since it's not really a matter of continuity or a blatant oversight in the writing, there are endless possibilities to consider.
They did include cellphones and pagers in the series - season 1 has Buffy wearing a beeper in "Never Kill a Boy on the First Date" ("if the apocolypse comes, beep me"), and in later seasons with Dawn around there are cellphones involved (yet for some reason they never used the "vibrate" function while out on patrol - it always rang loud and clear while someone was trying to be sneaky...). If I were charged with keeping an eye on Dawn I'd want her on a cell too. Someone should have just put a microchip in her ear... -
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Tue, July 31, 2007 - 9:42 PMCollege studens do pay rent ALL THE TIME. Wether they are charged the fee for a dorm or they pay rent off campus, unless they have really great parents they don't tend to live rent free (and most of my friends who did live with parents while in college paid them rent!). Student loans do often figure in living expenses...often not quite enough, hence so many getting part-time jobs. Unless, again, they have parents who will pay. The parents thing was out of the question for Tara, of course, but Willow's seem like the type that might help with college expenses with their tendency towards sort of vague parenting. Money for stuff, great, actually paying attention not so much. Then again, Willow probably did well on the scholarship front, what with staying at a local school
Of course, reasonable rent from two people does not tend to equal mortgage payments plus taxes plus maintance on a house or a lot more of the folks I know would be spending their money on their own place right now.
As for pagers...there was a slight bit of discontinuity in that too. There was the whole thing on First Date like you said, then seasons later when she hooks up with the Initiative she's given a pager and says something like "I always wanted one of these."
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